Why MB Star C3 Xentry cannot work on W205 recent Mercedes

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Why MB Star C3 Xentry cannot work on W205 recent Mercedes

User puzzles:

I have installed Xentry 9.2018 in Mb Star C3 multiplexer. It works well so far. Now, I need to make diagnosis on mercedes w205 year 12/2014 but It can not communicate with the car. C3 don’t work in all recent cars in xentry but in DAS is ok.

Experienced users’ suggestion:

C3 has many limitation regarding latest vehicles in Xentry.
It can’t diagnose it e.g w205, w212, w222, w906, smart 453 etc.

its glory is already passed unless you deal only with vehicles in DAS.
you have to change to MB SD Connect C4.
C4’s support also officially has been stop since 12-2015.

It is no different even you change folder.
it is different protocol with recent vehicles.

For your w205 (nice car) you can use one of this :
1.sd connect c4
2.xentry sd connect c5

Both good at all new Mercedes Benz models,W222, W221, W212, W203, 211,W 204,W207, W212, GL166, B 246, CLS 218, SLK172 and Smart405, 451, 452, 454

Besides the mercedes star diagnostic software c3 and c4 own, sdconnect c4/c5 added three more software: SD Media, Xentry and Smart TAN Code.
SD Media: Video and PDF lessons;
Xentry: New software released by Benz Company after 04/2009 by diagnosis new cars. Xentry software for diagnosing W 204,W207 and W212 which C3 and C4 does not support;
Smart TAN Code: Opened special function in DAS program with Smart cars 405/ 451/452/ 454.Besides, it also opened more special functions, such as engineer mode, remove limitations,etc, which Star C3 and Star C4 do not have.

I have successfully communicated wit my w205 AMG using a MB SD C4 connect all controllers accessed.


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W215 2003 K-line diagnosis DTS Monaco or Vediamo

This is for those maybe interested getting DTS 8 or Vediamo v5 working on 2003 Mercedes later.

My configuration:
X230 Lenovo
SD connect C4
No Xentry nor DAS (it seems better to not install this as it can created more probles in test phase)
Just InstallSDconnectToolkit 2.1.30 also have 2.1.14 but not installed (maybe should I use 2.1.14 ? )
and DTS Monaco 8.08.021
IP4 set to 172.29.127.100 255.255.255.0 dns 8.8.8.8

My actual settings:

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Set up 2 computers for testing:

computer 1)  vediamo 4.02.02  on XP Xentry 09.2014
computer 2) DTS 8.08.21 on Windows 7 x32 clean NO Xentry, No Vediamo, with a custom 2.1.7.1 Toolkit and ToolkitApiDll_4.0.dll in sytem32

Vehicle: W215 2003 V12 Biturbo

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Problem:

I found several source with W215 folder and 1 works, but partially
On the picture you can see, once I apply filter, these are the only few that connect

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Only these ecus above turn green

other 20-30 not

Solution:

The solution in understanding that in 2003 year where there’s no any Vediamo and DTS8

Free solution is using DAS. It solves 99.99% tasks in this kind of vehicles.
Not free solution use other hardware and software.

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From Vediamo manual:

CaesarGo: This firmware usually runs directly in the non-volatile memory of your CAESAR hardware, e.g., in Part A or Part Y. Supports older communication protocols as well, e.g., KWFB. The new UDS protocol is not supported.
TLSlave: This firmware runs on the computer used. The faster the computer, the quicker the different communication tasks can be completed (e.g., flash processes). Also allows the simultaneous opening of up to 50 CAN channels. This firmware supports “newer” protocols as well, e.g., UDS.

Good to know: CBF files is not about K-Line. CBF file use also W212 for example. Try to use Vediamo 4 for K-Line ecus.

For newbies: if you are not good at DTS or Vediamo settings, you could get a disk that installed all Mercedes software (Xentry/DAS, DTS, Vediamo, EPC, WIS, etc) before delivery. Tested successfully and plug-and-play!

Look here:

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Chart: explains the reason why many are looking for DTS

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