Monthly Archives: September 2018

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Mercedes Benz MB Star C3 vs C4

Mb Star C3: It requires a laptop so that you can troubleshoot your Mercedes-Benz via Xentry software. While on paper it is slower than MB Star C4, it has proven to be a very reliable and robust scanner that is not plauged with WiFI connectivity issues like the Star C4.

MB Star C4 is the latest Mercedes-Benz wireless multiplexers that can connect to your PC via wireless connection. Being the latest Diagnostic Scanner for Mercedes-Benz it works faster, once you resolve any connectivity issues that is.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is DAS? – Diagnostic Assistance System – This is the full diagnostic system for Mercedes-Benz vehicles. All functions for diagnosis including reprogramming, configuration, initialization, fault diagnosis and guided diagnostic tests are contained within DAS.

All control unit software (reprogramming calibrations) is contained within the DAS software which is distributed monthly via DVD media.
All access and functionality required in regard the configuration via SCN Coding and/or CVN Coding is covered.

What is WIS-NET? – Workshop Information System – This is the complete workshop information system as developed by DaimlerChrysler for use in the servicing of Mercedes-Benz vehicles. Contained within are installation instructions, procedures, functional and technical specifications. There is some linkage from certain procedures in DAS to respective documents in WIS.

What can Mercedes Star Diagnostic Tool do? The system offers total diagnostic coverage of all engine, chassis and body systems:

Reading and re-setting of diagnostic trouble codes (DTC)
Real-time reading of dynamic data
Full component activation clearing and re-setting of adaptation values
Coding of all engine, chassis, body and instrumentation modules
Key configuration
Procedure for fitting Mercedes- Benz accessories through the D2B ring and MOST bus
Total ASSYST / ASSYST + control (Active Service System) to update on board service history

What is Workshop Green Key? This is a unique one-time key from the factory which is necessary in certain situations such as:

Disabling a key track
Replacing the ECU
Replacing security related control units
Replacing EIS

Typically the workshop key and EIS must be ordered togheter and the green key is used to perform the final programing of the EIS.

What does it mean MARRYING  a VIRGIN ECU and EIS? The ME (ECU=Engine Control Unit)  and  EIS (Electronic Ignition System) control module are electronically permanently married to each other after 40 engine starts. There is no factory procedure to undo this. This means that a used engine EIS or DAS control unit cannot be used on another vehicle. A new control unit can be installed for testing provided the 40 engine starts are not exceeded. Note that the new control unit must be variant coded before it can be used. If the 40 engine start cycles are not completed successfully resetting the counter to 0 (removing the version coding) is possible if  you disconnect the power from the ECU for at least 45 minutes.

What model years does Star Diagnostic Scanner work with? The Star Scanner should work on cars from 1989 up to 2015 for Mercedes Cars, Buses, Trucks, Sprinter Vans, Smart cars, Etc.
What can I do with obd2tool.com Star Diagnostic SD Connect Scanner C3 & C4?

Reading/Erasing Trouble Codes
Read Live Data
Adaption of Modules
Coding/Programming of Modules
Component Testing
Maintenance Information Consultation

What is Xentry? New software released by Benz Company after 04/2009 by diagnosis new cars. WIS.net : Workshop Information System EPC.net: Electronic Parts Catalogue STAR UTILITIES: the movement management system and self-test DAS: the automatically Diagnosis Assistance System ST Finder 2008: Part location finder

What is Smart TAN Code? It openes special function in DAS program with Smart cars 450/451/452/454 Developer model: Mercedes-Benz engineer mode, remove limitations and open more functions.

What is Benz Disassembly system? Video lessons to teach you how to remove each part from Benz cars with details order steps.

Which control units can MB Star Diagnostic Scanner with Xentry troubleshoot?

Engines (All Gasoline & Diesel Systems)
Transmissions and Electronic Selector Modules
Airmatic and Active Body Control Suspension Systems
Traction Systems: ESP / ASR / ETS / ABS / BAS / SBC braking systems
Supplementary Restraint Systems (SRS) / Airbag, All body modules OCP / UCP / LCP / SCM / SKF / KFB / RCM / DCM’s
Drive Authorisation System
Sam (Signal Acquisition) Modules
Electronic Ignition System (EIS)
Pneumatic System Equipment and ATA functions
Air Conditioning / climate control Systems
Instrument Cluster
Tyre Pressure Control
Parktronic System
Keyless Go
D2b Command & Audio Gateway (D2B and MOST networks)
TV Tuner
Headlamp Range Adjustment
Seat Electronics
Rvc, RST & Vario Roof modules
Automatic Clutch System ACS
M-Class Body Modules (AAM / EAM / DAS / SEM / VG Transfer Case)
Assyst & ASSYST + systems


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How to Diagnose BMW MSD80 DME with INPA software

Purpose: To see the BMW Diagnostic Tool options is working or not, on 525i with an engine N53.

Diagnostic tool: BMW ICOM A2/ICOM Next with ISTA

Important: compare possibilities of ISTA D with INPA.

Vehicle information:
Car: BMW 5 series E60 sedan 525i
Year: 2007/09
Engine: N53
EURO
Manual
DME: MSD80

The test:

ISTA-D is identifying the vehicle

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and reading FASTA information

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the basic menu is available.

Service procedures and data, intended for the engine, are available in two groups:

a) basic menu: Vehicle management/Service function/Powertrain/Engine Electronics
b) Call up ECU functions menu of the engine management unit

In the basic menu you can choose:

a) viewing data correction of cylinder Rough run and Stoichiometric mixture;
b) coding the injector data;
c) coding new NOx catalytic converter and NOx sensor, activate Desulphation session;
d) delete adaptations;
e) perform misfire/Rough run test for cold engine and view the “opinion” of DME, which engine has problems with smooth running.

In DME Call up menu you can choose:

a) view live data;
b) perform activation tests for several knots.

Now, start the review with DME Call up menu.

To enter it, click with Mouse on DME icon on the “tree” of units and press the button “Call up ECU function”.

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Call up menu contains three basic choices:

a) identification: basic data of ECU unit;
b) diagnosis scan: live data;
c) component triggering: activation/test blocks.

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“Identification” menu is very clear, so we move to diagnosis scan menu – content of it is seen in the image above.

The content of Component triggering submenu :

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Unfortunately, the amount of test blocks is tiny. As can be seen, it’s possible to test the pressure of the low-pressure pump, in the injectors menu: switch off any of cylinders, switch on the water pump and electric fan.

Blocks of engine performance modes, Lambda probes, generator, VANOS, EGR and many other important knots are not available.

Diagnosis scan submenu.

a) fuel pressure (high pressure);
b) fuel pressure (low pressure);
c) idle;

allows to view exact values of the parameter and are not very interesting. Only remark (it refers to all analog/live data values, displayed by ISTA):

a) data representation is in small size, it’s hard to see the data, for example, during the driving session;
b) main part (with rare exceptions) of data have no reference value, no min/max limits displayed; no explanation for specific data;
c) bar type indicators are not used – they would ease the viewing of variables.

 

The content of Diagnosis scan submenu, choosing ”Motor operating values”:

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To read the required parameters, they have to be chosen (it/they will color in blue) and press the button ” Read status”.

Example, how does a viewing of live data look’s, using ISTA D:

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Unfortunately, data are opaque – there is no visible separation, no ref/min/max limits, no bar indicators.

Several disadvantages of menu:

a) oil pressure – no required oil pressure displayed;
b) no PWM for keeping up the pressure is displayed;
c) data of detected pressure are displayed with an offset of -1000hPa.

The content of submenu, choosing operating values of the N53 series engine:
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Live data of these parameters:

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This submenu has “several” disadvantages:

a) the engine performance mode is displayed, but no Lambda values, with which the engine works, can be seen;
b) no possibility to overlook data during the desulphation process;
c) no PWM both for the low-pressure and high-pressure system can be seen – no information of system’s ability to hold the pressure;
d) no Offset values for NOx sensor data are visible, no reported Lambda values (wide-band and narrow-band).

Data of “Operational smoothness values” submenu:

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In this menu, Rough run value min/max values ( +/-200) are displayed. According to the software release, in case of the normal engine performance, the values fluctuate in limits of +/-0.2, for some releases – only within limits of 0.02. It means, 0.1 or even 0,01% of max displayed! Conclusion – these indicated values are just confusing the user!

It’s not even worth to mention, that math, which would describe the coefficient ”engine order 0.5/1.0/1.5”, is not even present.

Content of ”Oxygen-sensor control” submenu:

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This submenu has “several” disadvantages:

a) multiplicative adaptations are not displayed at all;
b) Lambda value for wide-band probes is not calculated/displayed; no description, how to interpret “voltage” indications;
c) PWM of probe heating is not displayed, from the status description it’s not clear, is the probe being heated or is already heated;
d) no Nernst resistance for probes is displayed, chemical activity of probes cannot be seen; no manual control of probe heating is possible;
e) the engine performance mode (requested/confirmed) is not displayed;
f) required Lambda values and their conformity to measured are not displayed.

No data available about:

a) injectors: learnbits;
b) injectors: real time values (opening time; multiplicative adaptations; voltage; energy, etc);
c) injectors: mechanical and chemical tests/results.

Submenu ”States” contains some of the status bits:

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Unfortunately here the viewing of engine Live data ends. As you can see, the amount of displayed data is many times less than with INPA, and displayed data cannot be viewed easily.

Vehicle management/Service function/Powertrain/Engine electronics menu,

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Idle speed/Idling quality submenu:

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Rough running values:

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Rough run values for correctly performing engine display lasting disbalance, therefore it’s not clear, what are these data. Possibly – applied Offset type corrections for each injector to reach smooth performance.

Stochastic irregular operation data:

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Also regarding these data – no information. In ideal scenario – all values are targeting 0? Or, most probably: all values are targeting 50; increased value – decreased mechanical efficiency.

We can only pay our condolences to a specialist of the dealer center, who has to work with such “data”.

Delete adaptations submenu:

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Unfortunately – no information, which menu deletes which group of adaptations.

Also, information regarding stored error messages is more than modest:

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For example, in the existing situation, INPA freeze-frame will additionally display:

a) engine performance mode (Homogeneous/Homogeneous lean/Stratified charge);
b) engine status (work or heating up);
c) offset, multiplicative adaptation and integrator values, etc.

Data for separate knots can be seen into appropriate functionality blocks, as an example, we will view test block of VANOS:

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After choosing this test module, the menu opens:

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The detected position of VANOS can be seen:

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It is possible to perform test block, which tests the ability of VANOS knot to maintain the required position in one, fixed position:

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After performing such tests, the diagnostics specialist has to take the decision by himself, does the VANOS performs correctly – ISTA displays following menu of suggestions:

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As you can see, this menu doesn’t give exact answers.

Additionally, there are no possibilities to choose the position of camshaft manually, evaluate the PWM of the valve, it’s jittering.

The situation with, for example, checking the oil pressure is even sadder. There is no possibility to compare the inquired and measured oil pressure, no possibility to evaluate the PWM of oil valve. No test block, which could be started. Only testing option, offered by ISTA: evaluation of PWM of the valve with an oscilloscope. And, if rectangular impulses are observed, ISTA reports, that everything is in working condition!

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Everything is in order, not taking into the account the PWM value, not taking into account it’s jittering? Impressive!

It is regrettable, that the dealer specialists are forced to work with such weak diagnostic tool. INPA options for MSD80 diagnostics are incomparably wider, but, for unknown reasons, INPA is banned for using in dealer service centers.

https://bimmerprofs.com/msd80-diagnostics-using-ista-d/