2017 DoIP Xentry Connect C5 MB Star Diagnosis- What’s New

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2017 DoIP Xentry Connect C5 MB Star Diagnosis- What’s New

Real Benz diagnostic tool DoIP Xentry Connect C5 came as the newest star diagnosis system in the year 2017. it’s 1:1 clone of the original. Same as the one produced by French ACTIA Company, can test Engine /Transmission / air conditioning /SRS.ABS/ anti-theft system and OBD-II system, for basic diagnostic, SCN coding & ECU programming.

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What’s new? & what is updated, compared with sdconnect c4?

1 This MB SD Connect C5 is the real version with HQ PCB like the original, not the cheap one made by SD connect PCB.(attach PCB photos in the last part)

2 support the newest hybrid W222.

3 has an Ethernet switch, which switches the TCP/IP messages in the event of DoIP diagnosis to the vehicle side.

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4 has a qualitative improvement in hardware and software by authorization of diagnostic interface to control the software.

Hardware: The hardware of C5 is better and stable than SDconnect C4
1.OS: Windows Embedded Standard 7(32bit)

2.Processor: ArrandaieCeleron P4500 oder P4505(38W TDP)

3.Memory: 4G hard disk with 256GB SSD

4.Display: 128*64 PX

5.Battery: 40 minutes (When CPU capacity to 60%)

6.Weight: 1.9KG

7.Network connection: WLAN : IEEE802.11 a/b/g/n2.4+5GHZ

The way to connect: support wireless connection via 1000M workshop switches, also support wired connection.

Software: All BENZ diagnostic software 2017.9 is loaded into the Xentry Connect multiplexer itself.

The management software can be installed on any computer with Windows 7 – 32-bit or Windows 8 – 32-bit and serves only for communication with the multiplexer

The licensing system is reworked – now licenses are stored on MB servers – Any license changes are tracked by the multiplexer when connected to the Internet network.

5 at a lower price: the 1:1 clone of the original C5 is much more cheaper than that from the ACTIA Company

Undoubtedly, the original c5 with Panasonic tablet from the ACTIA Company is excellent … But … Its price is disheartening. The cost of the Japanese tablet is realistic to buy pieces of eight new laptops or tablets from other manufacturers.

Attachment: Xentry Connect C5 PCB- real & fake

PCB from real DoIP Xentry Connect C5

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This board is verified to work no issues.

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PCB from fake SD Connect C5 (actual SD Connect C4 in C5 case)

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the fake mb star c5 has nothing update

it is another SD connect c4 from OBD2TOOL with a different look only

fake C5 adopts the same design in appearance as the genuine from French ACTIA Company

same sw, some PCB, same result as SDconnect

So,  Why you should buy Xentry connect?

After 2015, all Star Diagnosis equipment is no longer supported. First of all, this means that there is no update of the diagnostic data for the newest cars and their systems, as well as the lack of the possibility of coding and programming of electronic units due to the backlog of the software data level in the device, from data in the electronic control units of the car.

Already at the end of 2014, at most dealerships, almost all of the previously used MB SD Connect C4 with SDConnect DoIP multiplexers were almost completely removed. Instead, dealers received Xentry Kit kits, which include the latest Xentry Connect multiplexers and Xentry Tab tablets from Panasonic. Tablets are custom-made, although they also have a “civilian” version – the Panasonic Toughbook CF-D1, somewhat inferior in terms of battery life to the original Xentry Tab, but it has a much more powerful configuration.


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Star C3 Part D & New MB W222, W217, W205 etc (Discuss)

A good thread with posts: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…

Hey dears

perhaps some of you have some insights on this: While we all know that the new model series like W222, W217, W205 etc have on board ethernet routed to the OBD socket, and the Benz diagnostic tool SDConnect is Ethernet/DOIP capable, the diagnosis still seem to be fully possible via D-CAN (pins 6,14 on the OBD socket). For instance, third party tools like BOSCH KTS and the BOSCH CDR (that we use for pulling crash data) do not communicate over Ethernet, they connect to several modules (well some 70% of what is in the car due to 3rd party limitations) via CAN, and they do it allright.

So what is the real reason for Part-D mux not communicating with these model series, could this be just a planned “programmed obsolescence” so the old units get retired faster than they really should?

Perhaps it would be possible to edit vehicle definitions so the old communication platform would still serve for these cars?

I have several Part D muxes, some original, some clones, and some of them work really, really reliably. Learning that purchase of a cloned MB Star C4 that would be as reliable as this is next to impossible, i am thinking about possible workarounds. Since it does not look like actual communication architecture limitation. Anyone?

 RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Benz star c3) and W222/W205…
There is nothing planned it is simply technology development. In time when was used PartD there was no ethernet/DoIP in the cars so was not needed have this technology in diagnostic device. Then came new technology and was build new communication hardware. For new technology is needed new technology that′s all. It is the same like car from year 2000 and car from 2015.

RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…
The only thing is, that Part D is not supported in newer Xentry and Vediamo or dts monaco software.
This part would work also with the cars for CAN Bus only.

RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…
(10-05-2017 12:45 AM)laco210 Wrote:
There is nothing planned it is simply technology development. In time when was used PartD there was no ethernet/DoIP in the cars so was not needed have this technology in diagnostic device. Then came new technology and was build new communication hardware. For new technology is needed new technology that′s all. It is the same like car from year 2000 and car from 2015.

Well that would be true if the newer vehicles would run ONLY in the DoIP mode/lacking CanBUS. But actually they DO have ordinary can BUS and even the documentation (WIS) states, that the diagnostics still take place using the D-CAN!

But guess what. We never know until we test ourselves.

I did a little experiment. I have installed a VOLVO DICE (capable of being a J2534 pass thru) drivers and configured that in Xentry (using the provided ptd_select program). Result – fully running diagnostics on a CAN (YES IT IS A PASS THRU CAN because DICE can’t do DoIP) on a 2016 S-Class.

I will test more interfaces and report. If that turns to be sufficiently reliable, i will stick to it and forget about other interfaces.

RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…
Most of our SDconnect tools are not DoIP capable but can still do W222 and similar MB models. That is for the diagnostics tasks. They cannot do Telematics updates or similar that run through the IP port.

The issue with C3/PartD and these new cars is not CAN but support for UDS protocol.

RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…
(10-05-2017 08:42 PM)DBmhh Wrote:
Most of our SDconnect tools are not DoIP capable but can still do W222 and similar MB models. That is for the diagnostics tasks. They cannot do Telematics updates or similar that run through the IP port.
The issue with C3/PartD and these new cars is not CAN but support for UDS protocol.

That would make sense and perfectly explains why i am getting full diagnostics using Volvo interface in J2534 mode that has CAN but also supports UDS (in fact, isn’t it rather a feature of the driver than the box itself?)

Anyway, quite happy with what i;ve found and if anyone’s interested i will give info on what tools, versions, setup etc was used to make this work.

RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…
(10-05-2017 08:42 PM)DBmhh Wrote:
The issue with C3/PartD and these new cars is not CAN but support for UDS protocol.

Bud, D3 supports UDS protocol. For example Sprinter 3 up to 2014 model year. Delphi CRD2 is UDS.
(10-04-2017 11:02 PM)mikepl Wrote:
Hey dears
So what is the real reason for Part-D mux not communicating with these model series, could this be just a planned “programmed obsolescence” so the old units get retired faster than they really should?

The only reason is that MB discontinued its support.

RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…
(10-08-2017 08:59 AM)efka Wrote:
Bud, D3 supports UDS protocol. For example Sprinter 3 up to 2014 model year. Delphi CRD2 is UDS.

“Supports UDS” or “only UDS”? Why does C3 not talk to a 2014 Sprinter CDI control unit when it does talk with the rest of the car?

How did you check C3 supporting UDS and really talking to the control unit with the UDS protocol? The control unit most likely accepts both when the 2014 only accepts UDS.

RE: Part-D MUX (a.k.a Star C3) and W222/W205…
The only difference PartD has no DoIP.
All other ECU protocols are supported.

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